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Writing study: Do We Need Adam? Surprisingly Strong and Sparse Reinforcement Learning with SGD in LLMs

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Sagnik Mukherjee, Lifan Yuan, Pavan Jayasinha, Dilek Hakkani-Tür, Hao Peng · Official ICML 2026 oral record

Figure, table and section ledger

Editorial contribution type: Empirical analysis, diagnosis & auditing (primary).

Layout extraction, not a required paper template. Counts are distinct caption labels; a multi-panel figure counts once. Section spans are estimated from heading positions, including floats and whitespace. Method and limitations.

Canonical PDF
18 physical pages
Before references / appendix
≈ 8.41 page-equivalents
Main figures / tables
4 / 6
Attached appendix figures / tables
2 / 1
Attached appendix span
≈ 2.91 page-equivalents
Before references / appendix: ≈ 46.72%References / intervening material: ≈ 37.11%Attached appendix: ≈ 16.17%Estimated layout envelopes, not text/artwork area. Unresolved appendix boundaries remain within the undivided post-body material.

Source-bound correction: Source-checked physical-page text restores wrapped top-level heading labels on pp. 17, 18. Heading starts and measured positions are unchanged; this is label completeness, not a new section. Newly detected unnumbered impact/singular-acknowledgment statements are retained from the size-aware source extraction; authored heading corrections are unchanged.

Section-by-section lengths and source pages

The title/abstract/front matter precede the first numbered heading. A span ends at the next detected top-level heading, not at the last sentence; end-page whitespace is included. References and statements are listed separately. These are not measurements of text-only or artwork area.

Top-level headingStarts on PDF pageEstimated spanShare of entire PDF
1. Introduction1≈ 1.32 pp.7.33%
2. Background2≈ 0.5 pp.2.78%
3. Do We Need Adam?3≈ 1.04 pp.5.78%
4. Can SGD Match AdamW in RLVR?4≈ 2.14 pp.11.89%
5. SGD Induces Sparse and Low-rank Updates6≈ 0.92 pp.5.11%
6. Validation with PPO and Extended Training7≈ 0.57 pp.3.17%
7. Why are SGD Updates Sparser?7≈ 0.41 pp.2.28%
8. Related Work8≈ 0.55 pp.3.06%
9. Limitations and Future Work8≈ 0.22 pp.1.22%
10. Conclusion9≈ 0.14 pp.0.78%
Impact Statement9≈ 0.18 pp.1%
Acknowledgements9≈ 0.05 pp.0.28%
References9≈ 6.67 pp.37.06%
A. Appendix16≈ 0.52 pp.2.89%
B. SGD requires a high learning rate16≈ 0.82 pp.4.56%
C. Experimental Details for ablating momentum and Adaptive Learning Rate17≈ 0.18 pp.1%
D. Experimental Details for the Adaptive Learning Rate Analysis17≈ 0.47 pp.2.61%
E. Experimental Details for the Momentum Analysis18≈ 0.33 pp.1.83%
F. Learning Rate Sweep for AdamW and SGD18≈ 0.58 pp.3.22%
All detected figure and table locations

Argument and organization

  1. Problem and contribution

    Questions an inherited optimization default by contrasting RLVR's changing policy/data and sparse reward signal with supervised next-token prediction.

  2. Argument sequence

    A component-level optimizer table precedes the hypothesis, performance tests, sparsity analysis and explicit limitations; the order makes the control variables legible.

  3. Evidence and verification

    The final appendix sweep keeps both optimizers' collapse-to-zero operating points, preventing the comparison from depending only on one favored learning rate.

Problem, claim and contribution

Questions an inherited optimization default by contrasting RLVR's changing policy/data and sparse reward signal with supervised next-token prediction.

Introduction and research-question box, pp. 1-3 · Main paper

Argument and section order

A component-level optimizer table precedes the hypothesis, performance tests, sparsity analysis and explicit limitations; the order makes the control variables legible.

Table 1 and Sections 2-10, pp. 2-9 · Main paper

Figures, captions and visual explanation

Figure 1 uses four aligned train/validation panels for math and code; Figure 2 places the SFT/RL distribution comparison beside the boxed question it motivates.

Figures 1-2, p. 3; PNG inspected · Main paper

Tables, comparisons and evidence

The final appendix sweep keeps both optimizers' collapse-to-zero operating points, preventing the comparison from depending only on one favored learning rate.

Appendix F and Table 7, p. 18; PNG inspected · Main paper

Appendix and reproducibility

Separate diagnostic appendices define optimizer-state capture timing and momentum alignment, while the training appendix distinguishes nominal learning rates across optimizers.

Appendices A and D-F, pp. 16-18 · Main paper

Clarity and writing conventions

The introduction presents mechanism explanations as hypotheses and partial attributions, while limitations explicitly name optimizer families not tested.

Introduction, p. 2; Section 9, p. 8 · Main paper

What to reuse—and what not to infer

Transferable lesson: Organize a diagnostic paper around separable components and preserve failed tuning settings alongside peak performance.

Boundary: Sparse-update percentages depend on the stated training/model setting; do not turn a selected minimum into a universal SGD property.

Apply this lesson using the argument and evidence worksheet.

Inspection record and sources

Checked
2026-10-07
Reading status
Writing-focused manuscript scan + selected visuals inspected
Main text
Writing-focused distributed manuscript scan, not exhaustive technical/proof validation. Sections 1-10, pp. 1-9: framing, optimizer decomposition, model/domain comparisons, sparsity explanation, limitations and conclusion.
Appendix / supplement
Writing-focused appendix scan; code, data and external assets not executed. Appendices A-F, pp. 16-18: training settings, learning-rate rationale, diagnostic definitions and tuning sweeps; references pp. 9-16.
Visually inspected PDF pages
3, 18

This is a writing-focused scan of the manuscript and the stated supplementary scope: framing, organization, visual explanation, evidence presentation and wording. It is not a line-by-line proof audit, reproduction of results or exhaustive scientific review.